Do you need a Guru?

Do you need a Guru?
(This was an email conversation between three friends. This conversation is being shared, so that others may join in and comment)

Gurvinder: It will be worthwhile, once in a while, to share any questions or views among us.

I feel that for most of us our education was incomplete. A dimension that is so important was completely left out.

Now the problem is that we find ourselves interested in these questions, but at the same time we feel the need for guidance from someone – either a Guru or tradition, or some system. So, one is a potential victim to the so called cunning Gurus who seek to exploit one’s ignorance. Let’s consider the following statement:

“The questioner asks me, ”Are you not yourself a guru? ” You can make me one, but I am not a guru. I do not want to be one for the simple reason that there is no path to truth. You cannot discover the path because there is no path. Truth is a thing that is living, and to a living thing there is no path – it is only to dead things that there can be a path. Truth being pathless, to discover it you must be adventurous, ready for danger, and do you think a guru will help you to be adventurous, to live in danger? To seek a guru obviously indicates that you are not adventurous, that you are merely seeking a path to reality as a means of security.” J. Krishnamurti

Kirthi: Gurvinder, for me having a teacher has seemed essential. I know it is not the case for everyone. My teacher has used Vedanta as a pointer, a means of knowledge to show me, step by step, that I was the answer I sought. Self-knowledge ends in the subject, not something external which can be objectified. So my teacher’s guidance is key to me, even though she cannot finally liberate me or make me “realized”, only I can do that. It seems to me that JK’s comments are applicable for a traditional philosophy or study which is of something I can look at, study, some truth from myself. That something different will be time and space bound, and impermanent, as he says.

Naveen: I do agree with Kirthi that a teacher is very helpful. We can only talk from our experience. I was seeking hard by reading books, analyzing by myself for a long time. I was making progress but not to the extent that I wanted. Then when I found my Guru (or rather they say Guru finds you), my growth & understanding has sky rocketed. The Guru put things in a way that was easily understandable & acceptable to me. This was not possible with other methods.

When we read any wise person’s statements, we should look at the context. The wise person says things that would be needed by the audience sitting in front of him. It need not apply to everyone. My feeling is that JK is saying this at a time when lot of religious leaders were cheats and frauds, whereas he does not want them falling in their traps.

Let’s examine – What is a ‘Guru’? In Sanskrit, ‘Gu’ means darkness, ‘Ru’ means dispeller. So ‘Guru’ means dispeller of darkness. In that sense a Guru is a catalyst in your spiritual growth, a certain energy, a tool who makes himself available to be made use of. Thus even JK is a Guru, because he is a dispeller of darkness. But a live guru is preferable because he can understand our current conditions & guide accordingly. Krishna, Rama, Vivekananda, Ramakrishan all had their own Gurus.

In the scriptures, they say we should never search for a Guru. Our job is only to intensify our seeking (i.e. you are not happy with limitations of our current human life, so you seek). When that seeking is intense enough, the Guru would come to you. I saw this becoming true in my life. When the intensity of my seeking reached a certain peak, he appeared. I never knew him before. I never really went shopping for a Guru. I guess a Guru is like a roadmap or a GPS. We can reach a destination without a roadmap or GPS but that might take us a long time.

How should I judge whether I need a Guru or not? If I am satisfied with my progress in terms of whether I am going towards peak of physical, mental and spiritual wellbeing, if I am able to manage my anger, anxiety, jealousy, hatred, and health issues, then I don’t need a Guru. But if I want to go faster, I would intensify my seeking, so the Guru could find me.
I hope that the above doesn’t sound too crazy!!!

Gurvinder: Thanks for joining the conversation and it is good to know that you are not hurt by questioning the need for a Guru. Generally, there is a tendency to identify with a particular teacher. So, if one is not careful then questioning could create disturbance. Disturbance could unknowingly cause hurt.

From my personal journey, I have met few people who have gone deeper into issues of life, so I can call them as teachers. These teachers were different in the sense that they did not have a body of knowledge to share. They did not set themselves as authority who know more than others. They are partaking in the journey together. They may have examined these issues and experimenting in their lives and are able to see the subtlety of the issues and are willing to share. There is a sense of freedom in learning together. Truth is a living thing and it is subtle. One cannot discover truth by making positive assertions and formulating concepts that sound impressive and comforting.

Many of the so called established ‘Gurus’ will never have a dialogue with you. They will tell you what to think, what to do, and so on. There is no freedom in this. So, the very approach is wrong. The most absurd kind of Gurus are those who promise physical and psychological cures by doing some yoga asana, pranayama, or mudra. All these techniques are helpful if done correctly and may have a place in life. However, to exaggerate there benefits and offer them as pills for different ailments afflicting modern people amounts to cheating. I see this cheating going on today and it is widespread. This really pains me to see these charlatans make all the claims and exploit gullible people. The benefits of asanas, pranayama, and mudra cannot be mixed up with spirituality. One may do a practice to stay in good health and so on, but that does not lead one to truth. I have lived in many ashrams and I have seen people who have great mastery in these techniques, but they are full of ego.

I have not been able to engage with these ‘Gurus’ in a dialogue because they are committed to some ideology. Of course, there are few exceptions, but you will not see them in public making exaggerated claims. To be able to heal others requires humility. Not the cultivated humility of the Guru and a follower.

In this field of spirituality any one can be a teacher. When I engage with children in a dialogue, I learn a great deal. So, they are my teachers. You can learn from nature. Nature can be a teacher. Life can be a teacher.

For the last nine years I have been experimenting with teaching and learning and I have met hundreds of seekers. So, it has been an interesting journey. You have to see what kind of relationship you have with the teacher. Is there any dominance, authority, and so on. Then is the teacher willing to have a dialogue with you.

English is a beautiful language, but the words have to be used carefully. For example, the word ‘humility’ brings about different images. Humility can be misused when it gets mixed up with devotion. Part of the dialogue process is to use words with care. So, dialogue involves seeing the implications of words and going beyond them.

Naveen: You may be wondering as to how this conversation started. I had the pleasure of having Gurvinder at my home, so we started there. I am expressing my views based on my experience but it may or may not apply to anyone else.

I think that instead of asking ‘Do you need a guru?’ the better question is ‘Do I need a guru?’ This is a question to ask for one’s own self because this may not apply to everyone because everyone’s situation is different. The problem with the human mind is that in general it becomes too occupied with looking outwards instead of looking inwards which is the essence of spirituality.

Unfortunately, so many so called “Gurus” (fake) have done such ridiculous things that no modern intelligent person would want to deal with them or deal with spirituality in general. These people have done so much disservice to this tradition.

Also, it’s not a good idea to have very rigid views one way or the other. Flexibility is a sign of good health and youth-fullness. To me, Yoga is a tool to make oneself flexible. To become flexible in the body, one does Hatha Yoga (asanas). To become flexible in the mind one does Gyan Yoga. To become flexible in the emotions one does Bhakthi Yoga. To become flexible in the energy (prana) one does Kriya Yoga (same as pranayam).

I don’t think we need to separate health from spirituality. It’s a spectrum. I feel that spirituality is the peak of health. What does a human seek- money, love, power, health, spirituality or God? . These are different currencies but fundamentally, I am seeking more pleasantness. Pleasantness in the body is called health. Peak of pleasantness in the body is called pleasure. Pleasantness in the mind is called peace. Peak of pleasantness in the mind is called joy. Pleasantness in the emotions is called love. Peak of pleasantness in the emotions is called compassion (all encompassing passion). Pleasantness in the energy (prana) is called bliss. Peak of pleasantness in the energy is called ecstasy. Pleasantness in one’s environment is called success. This peak of holistic health is probably also the peak of flexibility (& thus almost no ego) & also is a all inclusive consciousness called enlightenment or unity consciousness.

So, how to increase this pleasantness. I need a tool or technique that will help me increase this pleasantness. The only tool I could find was ‘Yoga’. But Yoga is hugely misunderstood especially in the West. Most people think of Yoga as the physical asanas taught in a yoga studio. Asanas are a very small part of Yoga. I found yoga to be a very deep & extensive science. But basically it works at four levels as mentioned above- body, mind, emotions & energy.

I have not visited so many ashrams like yourself & seen what happens there, but personally I have had a very good experience.

Kirthi: Thanks Naveen, that was a very good read. And Gurvinder, I agree with you that a Guru of the sort you allude to is not only not necessary, but would likely be a hindrance in one’s search.

Naveen, while you found your means of knowledge to be Kriya Yoga, I found mine to be Vedanta. There are always gradations of pleasure/sadness within our minds, and to a very arge extent, one doesn’t need spirituality or a Guru to come to a relatively peaceful state of mind. One can deploy common sense and objectivity in order to accept the realities of oneself and the world, as well modify one’s own attitude to increase one’s peace of mind. However, my search was to find out who I am, in relation to my mind and its variegated emotions and moods. I have found Vedanta to be a necessary tool, and have been lucky enough to have found a truly qualified teacher who can wield it well.

Gurvinder: We seem to have entered into an uncharted territory with multi-dimensional issues. From our discussion, I can pick a clue that the mind is in a state of pleasure and sadness. However, the tendency of the mind is to avoid sadness and pursue pleasure or pleasantness.

A mind pursuing pleasure is often denied pleasure. So, a teacher shows us various techniques to overcome obstacles and ultimately pursue pleasure. In Yoga, various techniques and approaches are offered that work on the body and mind to bring it to some stability, some peace. That is well and good, but the challenges of living disturb this peace. The degree may vary from person to person and from situation to situation. Nevertheless, one gets shaken. That is why we keep taking basic courses and then advanced courses and ultimately we desire to belong to the inner circle of the Guru to get special blessings and personal guidance.

Slowly, we are encouraged to cultivate positive thinking or positive attitude. In positive thinking we are seeking some kind of assurance, some security, and a sense of belonging to a group. The positive thinking is opposite of negative thinking. The positive thinking is a reaction to negative thinking. This brings about conflict in the mind. Then we seek to meditate or apply some technique to pacify the mind.

So, one has discovered that positive thinking (pleasure) and sadness (negative thinking) are part of the mind. Any effort or will to change the negative thinking to pursue positive thinking is an escape from reality.

The next question is that can one understand sadness. For example if anger brings about pain. Then can one understand pain and not create the opposite – being peaceful. One remains with pain and one does not try to change or overcome it. Any effort on one’s part is an escape and therefore is continuity in ignorance.

This is an exploration. The exploration allows us to understand the way mind shifts from pleasure to sadness and vice versa. As J. Krishnamurti said, “In the problem itself is the solution.” Understanding the nature of the mind informs one whether one needs a Guru and if at all one has a Guru then what is one’s relationship with the Guru.
Gurvinder Singh works as a Program Coordinator at the Study Centre, KFI, Bangalore. Some of the programs he coordinates and conducts include the First Sunday meetings, weekly Thursday meetings, Staff Meetings, Parents Meetings, Monthly retreats, and the Children’s program. He wants to explore J. Krishnamurti’s teachings and share the inquiry with others. He works closely with the Valley School to facilitate the school programs at the Study Centre. Gurvinder communicates to the web community via the www.kfistudy.org website, social networking sites, as well as authoring the monthly newsletter.

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  1. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Most of us are probably dreaming while asleep in our current bodies and minds. In our dreams, we design our worlds we are comfortable with, play various role-acting there, derive some pleasures in our concocted fortune or suffer copiously in our perceived pains, and hope that somewhere in some corners of my dream state I’d be blessed with a continuity that would erase all my trials and tribulations for ‘ever’.

    The ‘I’ that dreams is shaped and confirmed by my dream society. In my dream, the ‘I’ has a society with its goals and suggestions: Life has to have a meaning, a purpose, a goal; my dream society in my sleep state with its impressive knowledge knows what that goal is, how to reach that goal, how to be happy, how to be powerful, how to be enlightened, how to be liberated, etc. In my slumber, I dream all these on and on without actually terminating my slumber; and my life continues endlessly in that format until I drop dead.

    A dreaming ‘I’ has all kind of needs: psychological, physical and social. One of these needs is the need to have a guru, someone that would teach us how to live, how to be free, etc. But how does that guru inform us of his teaching? You may say ‘A’, and if I’m not totally resonant with you I’ll hear ‘B’, which you might miss altogether unless you are totally resonant with me. How do you communicate with shadows in a dream state? If I’m already open to you, am I not open to this ‘me’ already? And if I’m open to myself, do I need to continue with this charade?

    Only when I’m totally with myself, when I’m up and awake, could I possibly know with certainty if I need any guru or any manual for happiness or liberation. And if my waking up is conditional to having any guru, surely I’m still in my dream state, am I not? My waking up needs to be totally dependent on ‘intelligence’, if any, and that too has to have its own movement, own momentum without any footing in the ubiquitous society that defines ‘me’. Guru, therefore, is a concoction of my petty mind; so long it remains embedded in its own design how could it be even free to see with clarity whether or not one needs Guru at all?

    Saumen

  2. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Last year early November, Sardar Singhji posted one of his observations entitled ‘To live without hope’, and I want to redress the question ‘Does one need a guru’ in terms of that interesting observation.

    Obviously, Guru or a help is needed in cases when one is living in a hope that there is somewhere some solution outside of my day to day mundane living capable of changing my life to one in harmony, to enlightenment, to liberation of some sort. But what if one lives AS IS in complete awareness? What is he going to hope for? And why?

    If I see I’m erring, I stop erring. If I’m bleeding, I stop my bleeding. Need I wait for any outside help when help is already with me? To live without any hope is the only rational choice man faces – there is simply no other choice.

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Awareness

Is there anything other than moment to moment awareness? We think that there is a future, that our problems could be solved through time, but is that true? Isn’t time an escape from our problems? We are afraid, angry, anxious and we feel through analysis, effort, thinking we could solve these problems. But is there any understanding through effort? Thought begets more thought. Understanding comes only when there is a direct perception of the cause of our problems. Direct perception is not a matter of thinking but of being choicelessly aware of our disturbances as they arise. When we are choicelessly aware of our disturbance (emotional disturbance or thought), then in that very awareness there is a negation of that disturbance. Disturbance arises when we compare the immediate, the ‘what is’, with our pre-conceived ideals of how things ‘should’ or ‘should not be’. These pre-conceived ideals are our attachment to those ideas. Say we want, or are attached to particular object, person, title, belief or an idea, and something happens that threatens to take away that thing from us. This very conflict (between our attachment and the reality of it being lost) causes the disturbance or fear in us. Now if we are simply aware of this disturbance as it arises in us, then in the very perception of its cause there is an immediate cessation of that disturbance. There is nothing else to be done. In the very perception of that disturbance there is an understanding and negation of it. This is something to be tried out, experimented. In other words, there is no thinker, there is only thought. Thinker i.e. ‘I’ come into being when there is a want to do something about that feeling or emotion. We don’t want that disturbance so ‘I’ come into being to resist that. Thought comes first, then the thinker as ‘me’. ‘I don’t want that feeling’, ‘It is too painful’, all these are subsequent thoughts which is identified as me. In reality if we observe closely we would see that there are only successive thoughts, one after the other, there is no ‘I’ in it at all. What we call ‘I’ is just another thought. Now I cannot understand this through thinking about it; only when I am choicelessly aware, without any attempt to get anywhere, there is a perception or negation of that thought as ‘me’, as it arises.

All our problems stem from a deep unconscious belief that life is a means to an end to something else. There is something to be achieved, a goal to be reached. But there is only moment to moment awareness; nothing else to be done, not even the cessation of thought. Thought exists, you cannot stop thought. Your wish to stop thought is yet another thought. You can only be aware of thought as it arises, and in that awareness thought stops, for that moment. Then next moment it arises again, then it stops again upon awareness. Awareness is the beginning and the end – there is only awareness and nothing else to be done. And when the mind deeply, actually, perceives the phenomena that time as a movement away from ‘what is’ doesn’t exist (i.e. there is only ‘what is’, nothing else) then an extraordinary quietness comes into being. But this stillness cannot be forced upon; it happens, uninvited.

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To Live Without Hope

This is a very serious inquiry. It requires a great amount of inward looking, persistency, to challenge oneself to the utmost.

If we are aware of ourselves we will notice that we are living with tremendous psychological conflicts. Our minds is in the state of constant insecurity. Someone says something disrespectful, we feel hurt; our friends or loved ones seek other people, we feel jealous; our boss gets angry at us, we feel scared of losing our job. There is all the time some psychological conflict – anger, resentment, fear, insecurity, anxiety of losing money, property, reputation, people, etc. operating in us. We are constantly comparing, judging, thinking, analyzing etc. If we are aware we will see that this is the reality of our minds – our minds is in constant movement. We may have found temporary securities in life through job, social respect, religious beliefs, relationships, and so on, but there is always a deeper level which realizes that there is tomorrow and all these things may be taken away from us. In the background there is always fear of death, which is actually the fear of future, that the death will take away everything away from us. So we are all the time accumulating or protecting things – property, relationship, beliefs, etc. – the very fact we are trying to protect, means there is fear of losing them. So our very attachment to all these things in itself implies fear. Now is it possible for us not to be attached to anything? This does not mean that we have to give up all the things we have and become a monk, but is it possible to remain in the midst of all these things and not be attached? It is the attachment that is causing the fear. Now attachment cannot come to an end simply by concluding ‘we should not be attached, the attachment is bad’. That is just an intellectual conclusion which doesn’t lead us anywhere. The fact remains that we are attached and that there is fear due to these attachments. Now can we remain with the fact of fear as it arises in us in our mind, without seeking any consolation away from it. Can we be simply aware of fear, without calling it good or bad, without seeking consolation or resisting it? This is much easier said than done. As, if you will experiment with this, you would see that this needs enormous attention. To be simply be aware of fear without seeking any consolation or hope away from it requires tremendous attention. It is something enormous because it challenges the whole movement of time, of seeking. However if we could be simply aware of fear without seeking anything away from it we would realize that thought itself is the movement of hope. Thought is this movement of seeking comfort or security. So can one be so extraordinarily alert to the fact of fear without any movement of thought? If one does that one would see that fear ceases, even if momentarily. But this is not easy. We are challenging the whole momentum of time – which is tremendous. To live without hope is very difficult. It needs enormous attention to live without thought, which is the desire for security.

 Ashutosh Kalsi

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Happiness and Unhappiness

In our day to day living we experience joy and happiness and also feelings of frustration, sadness, fear and anxiety. Generally thinking takes full credit when happiness is produced in the mind, but when mind produces unhappiness we blame others or we blame circumstances. Why it is that thinking does not take any responsibility for all the negative feelings and emotions that are produced in the mind? For example when somebody praises me I feel that this praise is the result of my achievement in a certain area or I feel that I deserve this praise because I am a very good person. But when somebody says something or does something that hurts me then the entire blame is laid on the other person. The fact is that both happiness and unhappiness are produced as a result of my own thinking. The question is why does thinking disassociate itself from the feeling of hurt and why does it not treat hurt to be its own baby?

If we do not carefully inquire into this question and change the status quo we are bound to get hurt for one reason or the other because neither the circumstances nor other person’s behavior and attitude are under our control.

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  1. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Mr. Sardar Singh raises succinctly one of the most important issues in human behavior: Why is it that we tend to welcome others when they praise us, but tend to disavow them when they hurt us or criticize us? Why do we fail to be in full control of our faculty and fail to reject both with equal intensity?

    Both these issues are ego related: they either inflate or deflate our ego depending on what emerges. All of us are well-aware of the play of our ego, our little “I”, our little “self” as we play this game over and again to please ourselves or hurt our adversaries. A more cunning ego might even deflect its barrage of criticisms by erecting some excuse to escape them (the dog ate my homework) or blaming someone else instead for them (it was your fault really).

    Ego seeks pleasure to continue. It creates its own universe continuously, and in that created universe it selects, it chooses outcomes, dramas. Consider an old tale depicting an event at the court of Emperor Akbar, the Mughal Emperor of India. At the urge of his Emperor, the rumor has it, the courtier Birbal demonstrated how to shorten a given straight line already drawn on the sand without ever touching it. To touch it would be to own it, to be responsible for it, to care for it. But the Emperor was adamant: Could it be shortened without ever touching it? The courtier drew a longer line just underneath the original one and claimed the job accomplished. Surely, in terms of the longer line the original line appeared now pitifully short and wanting; the Emperor was happy witnessing Birbal’s burst of intelligence yet one more time, he decided to reward his courtier for this gratifying demonstration of ingenuity.

    And this is the point of Birbal’s story! We often discredit or criticize others in order to appear larger than life in front of others even though all these creations are totally mental. Mind creates poles of pleasure and pain, and mind moves within these poles creating further eddies thinking that they are, in fact, actual and, therefore, need to be responded with more movements of mind. Thus, our ego is sustained and nurtured by its own movement creating meaning when there is none, creating reality when all are self-composed.

    So what can we do? We need to see our ego at work from all different angles without any judgment. Only then it could be truly exposed in its entirety. Perhaps, only then we can say with a joyous smile: Nyah! I had enough of it already.

  2. I do love the way you have presented this problem and it does offer us a lot of fodder for thought. However, from everything that I have experienced, I really hope as other reviews pile on that men and women remain on issue and don’t start upon a tirade associated with the news du jour. Still, thank you for this outstanding point and whilst I can not necessarily concur with it in totality, I respect your viewpoint.

  3. Sherlock I. Graham-Haynes says:

    Typically, the art of thinking is not one that human beings are capable of doing well. Bertrand Russell, once stated that “most people do not think, in fact, they would rather die than think.” Further he says, clear thinking is not cherished nor practiced among human beings – so we tend to be trapped in these never ending crisis of perception.

    I think that one of the reasons why our thinking is so flawed stems largely from the fact that we really don’t have a good sense of who we are as human beings. We often think of ourselves as separate, and, puny forms – when in fact – the universe is folded within us.

    And, as Pierre Teilhard de Chardin put it: “we are not human beings of having a spiritual experience, we are – in fact – spiritual beings having a human experience.” Unfortunately, there are people whose flawed thinking will not allow them to appreciate this manifest truth. With clear thinking, one can see from the context of the sun, there is only a continuous steam of light, or, one could say that there is only and always day, and, never night. While from the context of the earth – there is day and night. Only clear and rigorous thinking will allow to see this simply and manifest truth, yet, it seems to be most hidden! Hence: “the context is decisive!”

    As such, whenever the yield that derives from thinking seems to threaten one sense of him/herself – then, human beings tend to selectively disassociate from that seemingly nihilistic or reductionist thinking, and, sticks to the one view that gives them a sense of perpetuity.

    In the end then – one’s concept of oneself – significantly informs one’s ability for clear and flawless thinking. The foregoing then are my thoughts at this theme at this time!

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C L A R I T Y

Clarity of Perception
In response to the article entitled Past, Present and Future Mr. Satish has stated:

“Nice thoughts on how the mind thinks and how to live a happy life. However, it is difficult to stop comparing with others and depending on others. What steps can we take to focus inward and feel self-sufficient?”

Before we make an attempt to find an answer to the question we need to first examine the question itself. What is the entity that is asking the question and what is the motive behind the question? Why there is this feeling of insufficiency and incompleteness? The entity that is asking the question is not different from the entity that is conditioned to the idea of comparison and to the idea of psychological dependence on others for happiness? Dependence on others provides us a sense of psychological security and certainty. But it also produces fear, anxiety and frustration. When the mind realizes this then it seeks other ways that can meet its demand for security. There is, however, no attempt to find out why does the mind feel insecure?

Suppose someone suggests a method to focus inward in order to feel self-sufficient then the focus will be on the method and not on root cause of the problem. Following a method only complicates matters. It creates contradiction in the mind. There is a contradiction between what the mind actually is and the idea of what it wants to become, between the actual day to day living based on habits and social compulsions and the goal to be achieved. The cause of the problem cannot go away by imposing on the mind a new set of rules and regulations and making the mind dependent on some practice. Right action is possible only when there is rational thinking based on clarity of perception. Clarity facilitates the operation of intelligence, which is the basic instrument to wipe out the mess that our own thinking has created.

To understand the cause and implications of dependence we need to understand the nature of the “self”, the “me”. Thinking has created in each one of us the idea and the notion of the “I”, the “me”. The “self” treats itself separate from all other human beings. Most of our actions spring from this center. Being the creation of thought the “self” by its very nature is not secure. It is always in need of security, safety and stability. Not being permanent, it tries to become permanent through the process of attachment and identification. It identifies itself with something or the other which it feels is secure and permanent. Attachment to people, property and ideas provides it a sense of security, stability and certainty. “Self” exists through the process of attachment and identification.

If you take away the process of attachment and identification there is no such thing as the “self”. To verify this statement one can observe the activity of thought when the mind is confronted with a very serious psychological problem. For instance when a person looses someone or something to which he/she is very much attached or when the husband leaves wife or wife leaves husband or when the person becomes totally confused and helpless due to some reason then he/she becomes very sad and anxious. He/she encounters a feeling called loneliness. We need to observe very carefully the way this feeling arises.

In the mind there is always the feeling that “I” am “something”. Most of our activities are geared toward being “something” or becoming “something”. Sometime this “something” called the ego gets elated and sometime it gets deflated. One idea can put the “self” at a very high pedestal and the other idea can cause depression. The ego is always at the mercy of other people’s ideas and opinions. Its stability is dependent on circumstances beyond its control. Sometime it becomes the victim of its own mistakes and blunders. At the time of crises it faces a real challenge. It becomes powerless and it faces the possibility of being nothing. This situation becomes intolerable. The fear of being nothing creates the feeling of emptiness. When the object of attachment is taken away the “self” feels lost.

It is obvious that the process of attachment that sustains the “self” is responsible for this situation. Although this sense of loneliness is born out of its own pre-existing condition, yet the “self” treats it to be something totally separate from it and tries to deal with it in so many different ways. It tries to avoid or run away from it or tries to find some other sources of attachment and identification on which it can depend for its continuance. Unfortunately the person is unaware of the fact that as long as thinking tries to maintain and perpetuate the “self” through so many different ways there will always be fear.

Any action taken by the “self” to get rid of loneliness will be futile because “self” itself is the problem. If the “self” itself is an illusion created by thought and therefore false then any action emanating from it will be false. The primary need is to objectively observe the nature of the psychological structure that creates the problem. When there is realization of the fact that the mind itself is the problem then it becomes quiet. In that silence transformation of the mind takes place unknowingly and that is real meditation.

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Past, Present and Future

PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE

Life span gets divided into three parts, the PAST, PRESENT and the FUTURE. PAST means having existed or taken place in the period before the PRESENT and FUTURE means time that is to come. FUTURE is projected by thought on the basis of PAST experience and knowledge. No one knows what actually is going to take place in the FUTURE. PAST is over and the FUTURE is unknown. Actual living is, therefore, taking place in the PRESENT.

Living in the PRESENT means living in relationship with nature and with fellow human beings. Life is relationship. I am related one way or the other, intimately or remotely to nature and to all human beings. The quality of my life depends upon the quality of my relationship with nature and fellow human beings. Right relationship means to respond accurately which means to respond with love, care and affection. When there is mutual love and care there is joy in life.

The fact is that human beings do not live in healthy and harmonious relationship with each other. Conflicts in relationships spoil the beauty of living in the PRESENT. Any type of conflict brings about pain, misery and suffering. It is a fact that the way we think and the way we act has a direct bearing on our relationships. Thinking is conditioned by the culture in which we live. It is shaped by numerous influences. Religious dogmas, economic situation, education and social pressures condition our thinking. We are shaped quite firmly by the cultural mould.

There is hardly a moment when we see something with a fresh mind. Perception takes place through the screen of past knowledge and experience. Each person forms an outlook and a view of life and that view is not just a theoretical view but an operational one that affects, to a great extent the person’s perceptions and responses. Quality of living NOW depends upon the pre-existing condition of the mind. A person who really wants to live fully and completely, without any conflict in the PRESENT must pay close attention to the way in which PAST knowledge and experience interferes with the free flow of love and affection.

Suppose someone says something or does something that hurts my feelings or it triggers in the mind feelings of anger, resentment, hate, anxiety, fear or jealousy. Obviously these feelings disturb the equanimity of the mind. I take it for granted that the other person is responsible for creating these feelings. The fact is that such feelings arise as a result of interaction between two minds. Before I blame the other person it would be wise on my part to see how my own mind is contributing to the problem.

When a person does something that goes against my interest and against my expectations I get angry and I immediately declare the other person to be selfish not realizing that to expect the other person to behave in a certain way is also a selfish act. Differences in self-interests, values, beliefs, ideas, opinions, prejudices, likes and dislikes create conflict but the fact is that the process of thinking that creates differences and conflict is the same in all human beings. A person who is serious must pay attention to the root cause of the problem. There is no way that a problem can be solved unless there is clarity of perception.

One of the main characteristics of our thinking is the act of comparison. Worth and value of each person is determined on the basis of comparison. Each person forms in his mind an image about himself and images about other people and each person makes an evaluation and judgment of other people on the basis of views that he has already formed. Since childhood the mind has been trained to compare. Parents, culture, education system encourage comparison. Mind is conditioned to think that comparison is necessary for growth. But the fact is that the so called “progress” that human beings claim to have made is the cause of inequality and injustice in the world.

Comparison leads to competition. Comparison creates the desire to succeed and the desire to become “more” than what one is. It makes the mind aggressive and ambitious. Society encourages competition through the system of reward and punishment. Achievement of power, position, prestige and status and the pursuit of personal pleasure becomes the aim of life. Process of comparison creates differences and division. It encourages self-centered approach to life. Self-centered approach to life denies love.

The idea of what I think “I am” is not based on any solid ground. The image that thought has created is always in need of outside support. In order to exist it needs recognition, approval and appreciation. When a person does not get what he wants he gets hurt and he feels frustrated and dissatisfied. Desire to be valued by others and the craving to be loved, liked and admired by others indicates inward insufficiency and incompleteness. Obviously when expectations are not met there is a feeling of sadness, loneliness and isolation. Psychological dependence on others in order to feel good creates in the mind fertile ground that can produce fear, jealousy, anger, anxiety and hate at the slightest hint of not being loved.

Psychological dependence on others can never bring about happiness. Happiness is the product of sane and intelligent living without feeling any need to compare oneself with others in order to fit into the pattern created by the society. There should be no need to feel “more” than the other. Such a feeling makes the mind arrogant. Arrogance breeds division and conflict. There should also be no need to feel “less” as compared to another. What is the point of downgrading oneself and cursing oneself?

No one knows what exactly is going to happen in the FUTURE. But one thing is certain that if no realization and change takes place NOW in the way in which a person thinks thinking will continue to operate automatically, mechanically, out of sheer habit on the basis of ideas that have already been formed

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  1. ajay koul says:

    interesting, thoughtful and worth reflection.

  2. sunil says:

    This sounds very different and I feel the need to examine these points carefully comparing each to real situations that I face in the outside world. I’d love to lead a life that is free of fears & anxieties that come from comparison but the economic setting everywhere requires one to stretch more when one feels like resting/relaxing, doing nothing. Statements in the corporate world and in schools these days like “you need to be running to remain where you are” don’t make things any easier.

  3. RPSingh says:

    SSA

    I think this is a good observation. I think too much on the basics of PAST , PRESENT and FUTURE. According to my school of thoughts , our PRESENT is dependent on our PAST and the FUTURE is dependent on our PRESENT. So PRESENT is sandwiched in PAST and FUTURE. So if our present is good , means our past was batter and FUTURE will be BEST. In fact present is like a present(GIFT) of god, past needs to be forgotten to make the FUTURE best livable. In fact relation ship with nature or people around you depends on your present, say, if yesteryears you were working as officer, you had other officer as friends , today you have been promoted and become CEO , you will have all CEO’s around you and if you are a successful person , you will have relationship with all the successful persons. Suppose your project failed in the previous years and today you are sitting in a bar with friends, having lost everything in the previous project, you will have all the friends, who failed in the previous years sitting beside you.

    So I strongly believe that your present is fully or may be wholly dependent on the PAST, I think for the betterment of FUTURE , we should never spoil our PRESENT.

    BUT RELATIONSHIP with OTHERS like nature / people is to be taken as a LARGE or SMALL(based on you circle size) SHIP passing through various stages of your life with people and crew around you. The crews are like family and the other people are like co-passengers. The path it follows, show you, various locations and landscapes on the way. Best you can enjoy is the present scenery around you and association with people present with you. Your behavior with crew members is defiantly a mirror image of your own behavior with them, but not with others, since others will have likes or dislike based on their ideas, but crew is dedicated to their service , irrespective of like or dislikes they have to see everyone. Imagine a situation you are only passenger on the ship, you will have no co-passenger with you. But for the ship to work and move on, it is important to have the crew (family). So family is always their whether you have co-passenger or not.

    • Saumen Sengupta says:

      R.P. Singh observes: “our PRESENT is dependent on our PAST and the FUTURE is dependent on our PRESENT. So PRESENT is sandwiched in PAST and FUTURE. So if our present is good , means our past was batter and FUTURE will be BEST.”

      Let’s assume that it’s true. In that case, the PAST bears all the responsibilities for the quality of PRESENT and FUTURE. Correct? If PAST is studded with misfortunes so would be the PRESENT and the FUTURE. But on which PAST should the blame be posted? The PAST that I see to be the source of all problems is itself a product of some other pasts earlier. And, if we continue this way, the fault or reward lies with the first initial PAST. Where is in this flow any possibility for any one to be redeemed? If I am bad, blame it to my gene. And if I’m bad I’ll remain bad for the rest of the world no matter what I do because any doing would be predicated by the texture of my past. Do we see the difficulty in it?

      To say PRESENT is sandwiched between PAST and FUTURE, we are saying PRESENT is different from these two. If it is different, surely PAST cannot affect PRESENT. If PRESENT is a continuity of the same PAST, all there is a PAST without any PRESENT. So what would it be? Again, we are in a dicey state.

  4. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Thank you Sardarji for your observation! May I also add that while past and future could be objects of our thoughts, the present, though, somehow escapes us. We do remember our past, and in terms of it, we may project one or more sequences of future as objects on time dimension to indulge and plan, but “present” we cannot grasp. The moment we say this is the present, sorry, we’d be referring to a snippet from what has already entered into past. Past could be relieved by dragging it out from memory, or could be avoided by closing access to memory, and in all these ‘past’ is an object separate from the subject “I” looking into it. But with “present”, we are helpless. We can live in present, swim in present, laugh and cry in present, and even give it a name or a label like PRESENT, or THIS IT, or whatever, but we cannot grasp it and claim it as something grasped. .

    All the religions in the world probably understood this peculiar asymmetry while they were emerging. Thus, one way or another they approached “present” with a sense of awe and reverence. Could this be the common denominator among all our experiences forming the basis of philosophia perennis? This is one question that’d always remain unresolved. The second question, the more pertinent one, is where one could ask: What causes a subjective existence to roll into an object when we approach it to grasp, to measure, to compare, to conclude, and to line our experience? The answer comes out from the question already: So long as we are trying to approach it as an object, it becomes an object; we lose it through our demand for comparison, for measure, for storing it into our memory as an experience. Say, one is absorbed listening to La bohème. In that absorption where could be any notion of time, or of some tomorrow, or of yesterday’s defeat? Who could be there to ask if this is what “Present” is, or is there any present somewhat different from this? In absorption, could there be anything other than absorption where all are but postponed?

  5. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Mr. Sardar Singh identifies the key issue of living: “Living in the PRESENT means living in relationship with nature and with fellow human beings. Life is relationship. I am related one way or the other, intimately or remotely to nature and to all human beings. The quality of my life depends upon the quality of my relationship with nature and fellow human beings. Right relationship means to respond accurately which means to respond with love, care and affection. When there is mutual love and care there is joy in life.”

    To live in relationship implies living right now with all the intensity, care and understanding. If I’m in relation with you, what is it that binds us now at this very present? Obviously, it cannot be the memory of the past or the thoughts of future in terms of success and failures, but right now being together, listening to each other, caring for each other, celebrating each other for no other reason but because we are. Sure, there might be a past, but if I’m disturbed by it I’d still be marooned in my past, I’d be missing this current NOW with all its nuances, textures, smell, laughter and tears. Therefore, to LIVE is to give oneself in generously without condition, without constraints, without any baggage. This is what LOVE is. It is synonymous with LIFE because it is not caught in the snare of time.

    LOVE is freedom. One cannot try to become free, one cannot intend to be free – one has to be free. There is no becoming in LOVE or LIFE, either you are in LOVE, and hence, living, or you are not. In freedom, there is no room for comparison, for violence, for reminiscing the past, for dreaming about the future, except LIVING. Therefore, living implies compassion, implies empathy, implies kindness, forgiveness without condition. And only then a relationship fosters like a tender young plant getting nourishment and water from the soil encouraging it to grow.

    Often enough we are too hard on ourselves. We think that a relationship has to match some ideal we need to strive for. But as long as there is an ideal beckoning us, we are trapped in a formula losing all our sensitivity and all our love. In following an ideal there is no joy, no originality, no spontaneity, no thriving in the madness of living, no rejoicing in the silence that a being confers. LOVE and LIVING are all these. A plastic flower, however beautiful, cannot cast its perfume to all and sundry, but a naturally grown flower would do so without any reserve because that’s what it is meant to do. And in being what it is, it doesn’t particularly care for anything else – it just does what it does best!

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Happiness and Peace

Happiness and Peace

In his response to the article ‘Nature of Time’ Saumen Sengupta says, “time to us is really an interval, a duration with a beginning and an end, a span needed to measure, compare, contrast, compute, store in memory, retrieve from memory, to act, project, plan and of course , to dream and to shape”. In one sentence he has very beautifully described the main functions of our thought process. I feel that a clear distinction needs to be made between rational thinking and irrational thinking. To make such a distinction is an act of intelligence. Intelligence requires that the mind stays only with facts. Thinking helps us to learn a language, learn different subjects and acquire skills. Thinking is a very important tool in the area of our physical security. In order to keep the body protected physically thinking performs all the functions automatically because it is conditioned to operate that way.

The problem arises when thinking enters into an area where it is not needed. Thinking becomes irrational when it creates images about things that do not even exist and treats these images as real. By creating illusion in the mind thinking brings about confusion and disorder. A confused mind becomes very dangerous and destructive. We can see that irrational thinking is causing havoc in the society. When we are looking at the disorder and chaos that exists in the world we need to very carefully observe the source of all human problems. Irrational and false thinking is the root cause of most of our problems.

Human mind has been conditioned by the idea of the “me”, the “self”. Each person thinks he is separate from other human beings. This creates a selfish and self-centered approach to life. Self-centered thinking denies love. Life is relationship. There can be no relationship without love. This predicament has been created by our own thinking. The fact is that human beings all over the world are basically, fundamentally the same. We all have the same framework of thought and the same process of thinking. Contradiction is caused by false influence and conditioning.

Saumen says, “Happiness and Peace” belong to the domain of measure, and thus it is in time in which we can compare, contrast them with “unhappiness” and “violence”. He has asked very pertinent questions. “What happens when there is no attempt to compare, to measure, to project? What happens to a mind when it is not engaged in any activity in which time as interval is needed?”

In a sane and healthy state of mind thinking operates rationally when needed. Intelligence and love determine the quality of relationship with nature and fellow human beings. All the senses are alive and active. Peace exists naturally in a healthy mind. The flower has perfume. Perfume is not separate from the flower. Such a state is not the result of any activity of thinking. There is no need to recognize, label, compare and contrast this state with any other state. There is joy of life. This means joy is part and parcel of life. It is not separate from day to day living.

Unfortunately we do not live that way. Self-centered approach to life creates innumerable problems. Anything that disturbs the “self” becomes a problem. The moment a problem like fear, jealousy, anger, and anxiety arises in the mind hectic activity of thought comes into operation because thinking now needs to solve the problem that has been created. Thinking needs to ensure the security and stability of the “self”

There is a feeling in the mind that says, “I have lost “happiness and Peace”. Thinking has to find “happiness and peace” in order to pacify the “self’. In its pursuit of “happiness and peace” thinking creates a fictitious interval of time by saying, “I am unhappy, discontented now but I must do something to find “happiness and peace”. This way it creates a gap between what the person is “now” and what he wants to be. Instead of looking at what is actually taking place in the mind and instead of looking at how the problem is being created, the entire focus is on finding “happiness and peace” from some outside source.

All the functions of thought process mentioned by Saumen come into operation in the process in which the problems gets created, in the way thinking tries to find solution to the problems and in the way thinking tries to find “happiness and peace”. For example attachment to property and possessions, to people on whom one depends for “happiness and peace”, to ideas and beliefs and to one’s own knowledge and experience provides a sense of psychological security, stability, certainty and permanency. Without attachment there is no such thing as the “self”.

There is constant struggle and effort to fulfill one’s endless desires in order to be happy and peaceful. But the fact is that fear, pain; suffering and sorrow also arise because of attachment. There is no certainty, stability and permanency in the things to which one is attached. Any threat to anything to which one is attached brings about unhappiness, anger, anxiety and resentment. Instead of understanding the cause of the problem thinking tries other methods and tries to find other sources that may create “happiness and peace”. So the endless struggle continues.

If any person wants to see the serious implications of this illusory pursuit of “happiness and peace” then he must see with an objective mind what people, individually and collectively, are doing all over the world. There is blind and mechanical pursuit of “progress” and “success”. Achievement of power, position, prestige and status is considered as the aim of life. Struggle for personal pleasure, competition in all spheres of life and the system of reward and punishment are part and parcel of present day existence.

Collectively as a nation people go to war with other countries in order to ensure their own peace, security and happiness. Vast majority of people believe that God or some super power provides “happiness and peace”. There have been numerous wars in the name of God. There is always conflict between different organized religions. Politicians and religious leaders fully exploit the people’s psychological need for “happiness and peace”.

It is imperative that we must pay close attention to this grim reality. When a person actually sees that he is cutting the branch on which he is sitting then out of that observation intelligence is born. Only intelligence can stop the stupid action.

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Nature of Time

Recently I read an interesting article about the quantity and quality of time written by Marguerite Theophil. He says ancient Greeks used two distinct words for the concept of time: ‘chronos’ and ‘kairos’. ‘Chronos’ refers to chronological or sequential time. Time in this sense is dimensional, measurable. ‘Kairos’ refers to a moment of undermined period of time. It is significant rather than dimensional and so it is qualitative. While measurement is one of the distinguishing characteristics of ‘chronos’ the key reason that ‘kairos’ time cannot be measured is because it is always in the ‘now’.

Concept of chronological time is, of course, very useful in the field of science and technology and in our day to day life. No advancement in science and technology would have been possible without this concept. Chronological time helps us to organize our day to day activities. But is there any other time at all? When the author is trying to explain and define ‘kairos time’ he is actually describing the state of mind in which “old rules, methods, traditions, habits, ways of thinking and doing business do not seem to work any more”. This state of mind has nothing to do with time. So what is the point of associating time with the state of mind?

The author says, ‘kairos’ time is as a gift, time we do not recognize while we are experiencing it, but only afterwards.” The word “afterwards” is very crucial because it tells us how our thinking creates concepts about things that do not even exist. When one is looking at the beautiful mountain there is only the experiencing of beauty. So what happens “afterwards”? Afterwards the person becomes conscious of the experience. Thought recognizes the experience. Thought says how marvelous the experience was and stores it in the brain as memory. That memory is the past. In this state of mind thinking forms a concept of the past experience. In the mind there is an image of time that has already gone. Thought wants to repeat the experience so it creates the image of the future. The fact is that the past is gone and future is unknown. This means that time as the past and the future exists in thinking only.

Mind forms ideas and concepts about things it has not even experienced. Any idea that offers some hope, some reward appeals to the mind. Pursuit of pleasure and avoidance of pain are the main drives that dominate our thinking. When “purely chronos-time activities leave us exhausted” we start thinking of pursuing an imagined ‘kairos-time’ that may bring in “happiness and peace”. In the concluding paragraph the author says, “while chronos admittedly offers the promise of satisfaction after accomplishment, and we need that in our lives, ‘kairos’ fulfils us when we do what we love, what is meaningful- and we need that even more”.

The fact is that time as such does not offer any promise of satisfaction. Time only helps us to organize our activities. Satisfaction or dissatisfaction depends on the results of our activities. Time exists independent of an individuals needs. When we do not achieve the desired result we feel dissatisfied and that also happens in chronological time. Can we say that we do not need that time and can we eliminate the time that we do not need?

Same way ‘kairos-time is not a commodity that if you get more, you will be happier, more satisfied. The word ‘more’ indicates measurement and is again relative. By the definition given by the author kairos time cannot be measured because it is always in the “now”. How can you get more nows and get more satisfied. Can the quality of mind be measured in terms of more or less? Can day to day living be divided between two periods of time by saying “I will get satisfaction by accomplishing tasks in one period of time and then I will start doing what I love to do and what is meaningful?” Why can’t I do this all the time? What is the point of creating in the mind a hope for some kind of satisfaction and happiness in the future? What are the impediments that come in the way of living a normal and healthy life “now”.

A person who is serious must find out for himself if there is this quality of mind that can live in the “now” using knowledge when necessary and using chronological time when necessary but being totally free from concepts, ideas, opinions and prejudices. Living in the now implies that there is no comparison between the past and the future. Is there a state of mind that can see things as they are without any interpretation? That means all measurement, evaluation and judgment comes to an end. There is no division between the observer and the observed, There is only the state of experiencing without the experiencer who is always pursuing personal pleasure, personal satisfaction and personal gratification. Instead of forming ideas and concepts we need to pay attention to the necessary conditions that can bring about quality of mind that is innocent, free from fear, anger, violence, anxiety and jealousy.

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  1. Saumen Sengupta says:

    An interesting concept is time. As I see it, time to us is really an interval, a duration with a beginning and an end, a span needed to measure, compare, contrast, compute, store in memory, retrieve from memory, to act, project, plan, and, of course, to dream and to shape. The Greek word Kronos is this interval-centric concept just as a line is in space connecting two “points” on it. Whereas a point is a spatial entity, Kiros meaning NOW need not have that quality. If NOW has no duration, mind cannot grasp it, cannot measure it, can not deal with it: even if it does exist we have no way of proving that it does.

    Time as an interval based measure spans from past to future with a singularity at NOW. Whenever a mind conjectures it is in NOW, it is referring to its past already spent. To a mind, NOW is unattainable, and therefore, it is without any quality. “Happiness and peace” belong to the domain of measure, and thus, it is in time in which we can compare and contrast them with “unhappiness” and “violence”. What happens when there is no attempt to compare, to measure, to project? What happens to a mind when it is not engaged in any activity in which time as an interval is needed?

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Idea and Action

In his article entitled “the Essentials of Hinduism” (India Abroad 10/8) Roshan Dalal has explained the concepts, beliefs and ideas that have been passed on by one generation to another since times immemorial. Speaking about karma he says, “Karma is a complex term also indicating destiny and law of cause and effect, but as a path to reach the divine, it is interpreted as selfless action. The person on this path performs all actions in the world with great sincerity and puts in immense efforts. But such a person remains detached from the results of these efforts.” He says “karma also implies that one controls one’s destiny.” It is therefore linked to the concept of reincarnation.

A person who is sincere and honest must make an accurate assessment of the role played by these ideas in his life. A cursory glance reveals that there is wide gap between what a person believes and his actions. The fact is that no transformation has taken place in the human psyche. Greed, jealousy, anger, violence, fear and anxiety were part and parcel of the human psyche when these ideas were formulated. Human beings are afflicted with the same maladies even now. The fact is that the nature of the “self” has become much more cunning and clever and is capable of doing much more damage in the world.

It is pertinent to ask why these beliefs have not produced the desired results. Obviously there is a definite reason why the beliefs create contradiction in the mind. Our self-centered and selfish approach to life makes it impossible even to grasp the intent of the beliefs. How can a person control his destiny when his brain is controlled by his selfish and self-centered pursuits, by the numerous desires, by his ambition and by the urge to become successful and gain more and more power, position and prestige When a particular belief serves the selfish purpose and when it helps to strengthen and perpetuate the self it automatically gets incorporated into the network of thought. But when you cannot put a particular idea into action it remains in the psyche as an ideal. How can there be selfless action when the person is seeking self-fulfillment and self-gratification all the time.

How can a person remain detached from the results of his efforts when life is governed by self-interest? Who cares as to what happens after death when one is fully engaged in the pursuit of pleasure in this life. The whole concept of reincarnation is, therefore just sitting in the brain cells merely as a belief. If there was real understanding of the implications of the principle of cause and effect, if the interconnectedness and interdependence of life had been clearly seen then the person could never act in a way that can cause harm to nature and to the society. Because of lack of clarity human beings have postponed the right action throughout the past centuries.

Love cannot exist as long as there is this sense of “me”, the “self”. A mind that is self-concerned with its own ambition, greed and fear has no capacity to love. Only profound understanding into the nature of the “self” can bring about inward revolution. Self-knowledge is an absolute necessity.
Sardar Singh

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  1. Saumen Sengupta says:

    Thanks for Sardarji’s incising articulation in response to the recently published article on Hinduism by Roshan Desai. Somehow the original article escaped my attention; I’m glad that it was duly noticed, and commented upon.

    If I were Mr. Roshan Desai I’d raise one simple question for my own understanding: Why on earth should one be interested (and motivated) to control one’s destiny when one is supposed to be detached from the fruits of Karma? If I have nothing to do either with karma or with its rewards and pains, why should I waste my time in controlling this entity called “destiny”? Why not let it blossom however it wishes? Why care about destiny, fate, being this or that when I’ve decided already to give up all my infatuations, including all the ideals, including God and religion?

    A “selfless action” which Mr. Desai solicits for needs the absence of a “self” to start with. But the very “effort” engaged in some “selfless action” posits the little mischievous self firmly at the control of all the effort mind undertakes to get “selfless” action going. What a tragedy!

    So long as one is engaged in “controlling one’s destiny”, one is looking at a picture of many. “I’m here to control “my” destiny so that “I” do not suffer any more” is an ostentatious claim to a manifold world, where every existence is an island unto itself. How could we even have any understanding of the “rest” when I’m not with it? If I’m striving for God, striving for nirvana, enlightenment or whatever, am I not living as an island with my little self with its private wants and needs? In that scenario, I can never understand another life outside me. I cannot even communicate with anyone in this dual universe. Therefore, I’m forever in a contradiction in this existence.

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Dependence on Technology for ones food

Our dependence on Technology is increasing to stay in touch with each other through internet and mobile phones. We have made tremendous technological progress in medicine, agriculture, telecommunications, and so on.

Is technological progress taking us in the right direction especially when we examine the food that we eat. The food that we eat is increasingly grown with pesticides and fertilizers, it is processed, and cooked by using improper methods. Recently, when we were discussing such issues some people in the group raised the question – “How can we go backwards in time and live without technology and modern agricultural methods.”

One also hears that one can have pleasure now and worry about pain later. Children say that we are having pleasure of eating junk food and we will worry about pain later when it happens. When one is with friends and cautious about ones eating habits, one is often advised “nothing will happen” or “eat whatever is given choicelessly.” Even friends who are doctors by profession are strangely fatalistic when it comes to making choices of food and are generally clueless when it comes to knowledge and care for nutrition.

The human mind has the tendency to go backward and forward in time. There is no such thing as forward and backwards in time. We have to look at time as cyclical or “wheel of time.” What is backwards become forward and so on. We see that many events of life have a way of repeating. What was true in the past is still true today and will continue to remain true now and in the future. In other words food that was grown organically in the past and the food that is grown organically today are more nutritious and are sustainable.

Can one look at something for what it is rather that what has been or what should be. Can one look at the relationship to food for its own sake. To love and enjoy food as it brings happiness. Celebrate life without worrying about going forward or backward.

Neetu

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  1. Ranga says:

    I wonder if we really enjoy the food till no craving is left for a particular food (junk), would we loose the motivation to eat that one again. If so, over a period of time, food is taken for what is for, that is for survival rather than for pleasure!

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